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2011 Honda Odyssey: Pricing and Trim Levels

Thursday, September 9th, 2010
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One of the most confusing aspects of new-car shopping is figuring out the different trim levels, all of the added options and the final price you’re going to pony up to get what you want.

For 2011, Honda has added an all-new trim level to its Odyssey minivan. The top of the lineup is the Touring Elite with a $43,250 price tag before a destination charge of $780. Most other Odyssey trims see a roughly $1,000 bump in price, but the 2011 has a more fuel-efficient engine and a host of new features you can read about in our full review here.

If you think some of these prices sound high, consider that 70% of previous-generation Odyssey owners bought the EX-L trim level or higher. The 2011 Toyota Sienna also can be equipped upward of $45,000, while the Odyssey’s top price is set at that $43,250 mark.

Below, we’ll explain what you get with the Touring Elite, the grand pooh-bah of Odyssey trims, and the other six trim levels — Honda doesn’t offer options for the Odyssey. We’ll look at each trim’s features, the price difference from the 2010s and what a comparably equipped 2011 Toyota Sienna with front-wheel drive and V-6 engine costs.

The 2011 Odyssey goes on sale Sept. 30.

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  • 2011 Honda Odyssey LX: $27,800
  • 2010 Price: $26,805
  • 2011 Toyota Sienna Base V-6: $25,700
The LX comes with a few features that it didn’t have in 2010 including an eight-way power driver’s seat, which is a feature not included on the base Sienna. Cloth seats, manual sliding rear doors and 17-inch steel wheels with hubcaps are things you’ll have to live with on the LX, but you do get cruise control and 10 cupholders. The LX packs one more speaker — for a total of five — than the base Sienna, and it also has an auxiliary input jack but no USB input.



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  • 2011 Honda Odssey EX: $30,950
  • 2010 Price: $29,905
  • 2011 Toyota Sienna LE V-6: $29,100
There’s a pretty decent leap in features once you move to the EX trim level, including power sliding doors, steering-wheel-mounted cruise and audio controls, a seven-speaker sound system with a 2GB hard drive and subwoofer, but still no USB input. The Sienna LE features a USB port and Bluetooth streaming audio as well as a backup camera.

The EX also comes with a Homelink remote garage opener, 17-inch alloy wheels, cruise control, a removable center console between the driver and front passenger seats, three-zone climate control and a flip-up trash-bag holder for rear passengers. The minivan’s cup capacity grows to the Odyssey’s maximum of 15.



Exlscreen
  • 2011 Honda Odyssey EX-L: $34,450
  • 2010 Price: $33,405
  • 2011 Toyota Sienna XLE: $32,375
While the “L” in EX-L stands for leather — as in leather seats — the EX-L trim adds more features to the EX for the $3,500 price increase. Included in the EX-L is a new 8-inch center-mounted information screen, rearview camera, power moonroof, heated front seats and a cool box that holds four drinks and unsurprisingly keeps them cool when the car is on. Bluetooth connectivity with steering-wheel-mounted phone controls is also added as is an auto-dimming rearview mirror, power-adjustable front passenger seat and power tailgate. The Sienna is similarly equipped.


  • 2011 Honda Odyssey EX-L RES (Rear Entertainment System): $36,050
  • 2010 Price: $35,005
  • 2011 Toyota Sienna XLE with entertainment system option: $34,870
Instead of offering option packages for the EX-L, Honda has created a trim level that adds a rear entertainment system or a navigation system to the EX-L trim. However, all you get with the EX-L RES is the hinted-at rear entertainment system with a DVD player, 9-inch LCD display and two wireless headphones, RCA input and 115-volt outlet.



Naviscreen
  • 2011 Honda Odyssey EX-L Navi (Navigation System): $36,450
  • 2010 Price: $35,605
  • 2011 Toyota Sienna XLE with Navigation: $35,670
For some reason you can’t get both the navigation system and the rear entertainment system on the 2011 EX-L trim level like you could for the 2010 model year. Using 2010 pricing on an EX-L, both systems would cost nearly $3,000 less than the 2011 Touring trim, which features both navigation and the rear entertainment system.

The 2011 Odyssey’s navigation system is all-new for Honda, which we detail here. It packs a high-resolution 8-inch LCD screen, voice-activated navigation and music control, live traffic with a lifetime subscription, a rearview camera with three different viewing angles, 15GB hard drive and seven speakers including a subwoofer.



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  • 2011 Honda Odyssey Touring: $40,755
  • 2010 Price: $40,755
  • 2011 Toyota Sienna Limited: $42,725
The Odyssey Touring packs both the navigation system and the rear entertainment system with a 9-inch display. It also adds a six-speed automatic transmission, 18-inch alloy wheels with low-rolling-resistance tires and an aerodynamic package that improves fuel economy by 1 mpg in city and highway driving. Fog lights and parking sensors are also added.

The Sienna Limited is more expensive than the Odyssey Touring, but Toyota only offers its widescreen rear entertainment system in the trim. Honda adds a widescreen rear entertainment system to the Odyssey’s top-of-the-line Touring Elite. The Sienna Limited also has second-row lounge chairs and a dual moonroof.



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  • 2011 Honda Odyssey Touring Elite: $43,250
  • 2011 Toyota Sienna Limited with similar equipment: $43,615
This is the trim with the home-theater experience, with a rear entertainment system that features a 16.2-inch widescreen display, 12 speakers including a subwoofer, 5.1 surround sound, HDMI input and a 650-watt stereo system. A blind spot monitoring system and high-intensity-discharge headlights are also added.

Honda’s New Navigation System: First Look

Thursday, September 9th, 2010
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Making its debut on the 2011 Honda Odyssey is the company’s upgraded navigation system. The hard-drive-based unit packs an 8-inch high-resolution screen, live traffic with a lifetime subscription, and voice commands that make it quite a few steps better than the outdated system adorning current Hondas.



The company wouldn’t reveal which other vehicles will receive the upgraded unit in the future. Considering the 2011 Honda CR-Z and Accord still feature the current system, we’d guess the next model to get it will be the redesigned Civic, which will go on sale early in 2011.



Below we show you some of the new screens and detail the improvements. Naviscreen

Navigation

While I didn’t get to test routing on the navigation system, I did drive for about an hour with the map displayed. The resolution is quite crisp, but the maps still feature rather lifeless colors and shapes to distinguish water, roads and landmarks. Luckily, road names – arguably the most important objects on the screen – are quite clear.



Using voice commands, you can input destinations such as “nearest Starbucks” into the system.

 

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Live traffic is delivered by FM signals instead of satellite as in other systems I’ve tested. The new method is still, well, new, so not all areas will have it active at launch. However, Honda says it’s available in many large metropolitan areas like Chicago and Los Angeles. A lifetime subscription is included, which is a relief to those who get tied up with hefty fees after a trial ends and sometimes requires adding satellite radio, too.

 

A Zagat Guide of restaurants and a scenic-route option are nice extras but not really make-or-break features.



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Music


The music display for the navigation system is also a huge improvement. Menu screens look sharp and modern versus the jagged, silver palette of the current system. You can access digital music via a USB port for either iPods or USB flash drives. A Bluetooth streaming audio feature is available. The system also has a 15GB hard drive for music storage, but it can only copy music from consumer-grade CDs, not burned CDs or flash drives unfortunately.



You also can use voice commands for the audio system, which is similar to Ford’s Sync system. A variety of commands can control the same function like saying “Radio 97.1 FM” or “97.1 FM” to change the radio station or “Play song ‘Just Breathe’ ” or “Play ‘Just Breathe’ ” to change tracks. 

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Honda uses the popular Gracenote system to recognize artist information, which owners can update via the USB input and logging into a Honda owner’s website.



You can also upload photos via the USB port and create wallpaper for menu and welcome screens.



The navigation system is a $2,000 price premium on the Odyssey, which is right in line with past Honda pricing and the competition. I would say this latest offering puts Honda near the top of the competition, too. Nissan and Infiniti’s system is another favorite, as are the upgraded units in newer GM and Ford models. 

Top 10 Best-Selling Cars: August 2010

Wednesday, September 1st, 2010

Cash for Clunkers continues to cast a long shadow: Big automakers had what looks to be a bad month, but last year the popular government program dramatically boosted the sales of many models, including the Toyota Camry, Honda Civic, Honda CR-V and Honda Accord. So the dramatic declines experienced by those models is not all too surprising.

Year-to-date, five of the models in the top 10 are selling less than they sold year-to-date in 2009. Before August, only one model on this list – the Dodge Ram – was selling worse in 2010 compared with 2009.

Toyota (down 31.4%), Honda (down 30%), Nissan (down 27%) and GM (down 24.9%) saw the most dramatic declines. Of course, Japanese automakers were the biggest gainers during Cash for Clunkers; GM’s decline is partly due to the strong sales gains by Pontiac and Chevrolet in August 2009. Chrysler saw a 7% increase because very few of its cars sold well during Cash for Clunkers.

The best selling full-size trucks — Ford F-Series, Chevrolet Silverado and Dodge Ram — performed well this month, and they were the only models on the list (besides the Hyundai Sonata) to post positive gains. Honda remains the automaker with the most cars on the list with three models, the same as last month.



Notable Items:

*Honda Accord includes 2,642 Honda Crosstours

Honda Civic Hybrid Software Frustrates Some Owners

Wednesday, August 25th, 2010

2007 Honda Civic Hybrid

Honda has run into some problems with its 2006-2008 Honda Civic Hybrids, according to the Los Angeles Times. After being on the road for nearly five years, some of the hybrids’ battery packs are beginning to fail prematurely. Rather than replacing all of those expensive battery packs, which are mostly still under factory warranty, Honda has issued a software update that should fix the problem, but that fix has also come under scrutiny from some owners.  

The software update applies the same battery-management logic systems found on the 2009 and 2010 Civic Hybrids. The new models and the old ones should get the same gas mileage: 40/45 mpg city/highway, according to Honda. However, some Civic Hybrid owners say the new software has made their cars feel sluggish and has slashed their gas mileage by nearly 10 mpg on average. 

Honda says the variations are due to drivers’ different driving styles. Honda updated the software to help prolong the hybrids’ battery life, Honda spokesman Chris Martin said. He also noted that there was no change in the EPA ratings for the Civic Hybrid from the 2008 model — the last year before the software management update — to the 2009 and 2010 models. The EPA did change how it evaluated mileage for the 2008 model year, and that is reflected in the 2008 model’s 40/45 mpg range. 

Judging from Cars.com’s reader reviews — where many complained that the mileage and performance fell below their standards until they learned how to drive the Civic Hybrid correctly — it would appear that there is a learning curve toward effectively driving the Civic Hybrid. And for the folks who have learned how to drive it one way, it may just take some time to adapt to the new software. 

Fix for Civic Hybrids' Dying Batteries May Hurt Gas Mileage, Acceleration (Los Angeles Times)

Recall Alert: 2010 Honda Element

Monday, August 9th, 2010

2010 Honda Element

Honda is recalling 585 2010 Honda Elements due to a problem with the automatic transmission, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. 

In the affected vehicles, the cable that connects the shift lever to the transmission was not installed correctly. The result is the driver may be able to shift the gear lever, for instance from Drive to Low Gear, but the transmission may not change to the selected gear. 

This could eventually lead to the key being stuck in the ignition switch because the driver wouldn’t be able to shift the vehicle in or out of Park. It could also lead to not being able to shift the vehicle into Reverse or Drive, increasing the possibility of a crash. 

The affected vehicles were manufactured from April 1 through June 25. Honda has contacted some owners already by phone and arranged to fix the car free of charge. All other owners will be notified of the recall by mail. Owners will bring their vehicles to dealers to get the shift cable bushing fixed. The recall begins Aug. 9. 

For more information, owners can call Honda at 800-999-1009 or NHTSA’s hot line at 888-327-4236.

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Recall Alert: 384,220 Honda Vehicles

Monday, August 9th, 2010

Honda Accord

Honda is recalling 384,220 vehicles because of a failure with the ignition systems in these specific models: 

  • 2003 Honda Accord coupe and sedan with automatic transmission  
  • 2003 Honda Civic coupe and sedan with automatic transmission 
  • 2003-2004 Honda Element with automatic transmission 
According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, the ignition system in the recalled vehicles could become defective over time. An interlocking mechanism within the ignition system can fail and allow the driver to remove the keys from the ignition without shifting the transmission to Park. 

If the transmission is not placed in Park and the emergency brake is not engaged, the vehicle could roll away, increasing the risk of injury to others and to property. 

Honda will begin the recall on Sept. 29. The automaker will replace the interlocking pin and lever within the existing ignition switch and replace them with newly designed components. 

For more information, owners can call Honda at 800-999-1009 or NHTSA’s hot line at 888-327-4236.



America’s Third Largest Domestic Automaker: Honda?

Monday, August 2nd, 2010

Honda Manufacturing of Indiana (Feb 2010)

If the Cars.com American-Made Index has done anything, it has raised the level of discussion on what defines an American car. That’s why it comes as only a mild surprise to find out that the third-largest domestic producer of automobiles in the U.S. is Honda. 

According to Automotive News, Honda beat out Toyota (the third-largest seller of vehicles in the U.S.) and Chrysler, which builds nearly all of its cars in North America. 

This year, Honda has built 555,734 vehicles in the U.S. and a total of 756,788 vehicles in North America. That bests the 468,440 vehicles that Chrysler produced in the U.S. and Toyota’s 430,535*. To be fair, both Toyota and Chrysler build more vehicles in North America than Honda, but both depend more on Canadian production than Honda does. 

Ford and General Motors still far surpass Honda in terms of U.S. production. 

We also found out today that Honda built more vehicles in the United States than in its home country of Japan through the second quarter, according to the Detroit News

Honda has more than 10 factories in the U.S., with two new plants under construction, and 14 R&D facilities. Honda employees more than 27,000 people in the U.S.; Toyota has 28,700 American employees. Honda was also the first Japanese automaker to build cars in the U.S., starting with the Accord back in 1982. 

So again, we ask: Can a foreign automaker that builds here count as domestic over a Detroit Three automaker that builds beyond our borders yet advertises its vehicles as American

*Toyota’s domestic production includes NUMMI-produced Tacomas and Corollas. More than 50,000 Toyota Camrys have been built by Subaru through a collaboration with Toyota for 2010. These vehicles were not included in Toyota’s own domestic production.

How Do You Explain This Accident to the Cops?

Tuesday, July 13th, 2010
Duckboat

“That duck boat came out of nowhere!”

or

“He didn’t quack before changing lanes.”



That’s how I’d caption this shot of an amphibious duck tour vehicle in Boston pinning a new Honda Insight against a truck. The Boston Globe says there were no injuries ... except to the pride of the poor little Insight’s owner, whose car looks like it got damage to both sides in the collision.



Duck Boat, Two Other Vehicles, Involved in Downtown Boston Crash (Boston Globe)

Cars.com Podcast: 2010 Honda Civic, 2010 Dodge Charger, 2010 Audi R8 V-10

Monday, July 12th, 2010
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Want to know all about senior editor Joe Wiesenfelder’s time in the rip-roaring, V-10-powered Audi R8? Well, you’ll have to wait until he and editors Kelsey Mays and David Thomas discuss the highs and lows of the Honda Civic and Dodge Charger, both nearing the end of their life cycles.



You can download the podcast via iTunes here or the MP3 version here.

Most-Read Car Reviews of the Week

Sunday, July 4th, 2010

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This week’s most read reviews continue to be Chrysler’s highly anticipated 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee and the 2011 Honda CR-Z. Also making the list is the 2010 Honda CR-V and 2010 Chevy Equinox; we say goodbye to the 2011 Buick Regal and 2011 Ford Mustang for now.

  1. 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee 
  2. 2011 Honda CR-Z 
  3. 2011 Ford Fiesta 
  4. 2011 Hyundai Sonata 
  5. 2010 Subaru Forester 
  6. 2010 Subaru Outback 
  7. 2010 Honda CR-V 
  8. 2010 Chevrolet Equinox 
  9. 2011 Kia Sorento 
  10. 2010 Hyundai Tucson